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Living Well with the Non-Toxic Dad Warren Phillips! 526
Imagine a world where you can regain control over your physical and mental health, not through prescription drugs or intense workout regimens, but simply by eliminating the toxins in your everyday life. This might sound like a far-off dream, yet it's the reality for Warren Phillips, our esteemed guest on today's show. Known widely as the Non-Toxic Dad, Warren has made it his mission to educate on the detrimental effects of toxins in our environment, food, and everyday products.
Warren's journey is not just about physical health, but also mental wellness. Tune in as we explore the insidious impact of toxins not only on our bodies, but also on our finances, relationships, and thought processes. Warren shares his insights on the cycle of toxic thinking and offers guidance on how to disrupt it, taking responsibility for our lives, and choosing positivity even when faced with challenges. We don't just scratch the surface; we dive into ways to evaluate whether things are enriching our lives or detracting from our well-being.
But how practical is it to live a non-toxic lifestyle? How can we avoid the harmful elements that seem so deeply ingrained in our modern lives? We tackle these questions head-on, discussing alternatives to harms of seed oils and sugar, the use of conventional cleaning products, and destructive cooking methods. Warren shares invaluable tips on creating a balanced diet, making informed decisions about the products we use, and ultimately, regaining our physical and mental health. This is not just a podcast episode, but a journey towards a healthier, toxin-free lifestyle. Join us and Warren Phillips as we redefine what it means to live well.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Boundless Body Radio. I'm your host, casey Ruff, and today we have another amazing guest introduced you now. Warren Phillips, also known as the non-toxic dad, is a scientist and a father who has dedicated his life to promoting a toxin-free lifestyle. After completing his master's degree in geology, warren worked as a scientist for several years. However, his focus shifted when he started struggling with unusual health issues and started noticing the harmful effects that toxins were having on his health. This sparked his passion for researching and promoting a toxin-free lifestyle.
Speaker 1:Warren discovered solutions to his health struggles through his healing journey and years of research. He realized that many illnesses and chronic conditions that people face are caused by exposure to toxins in our environment, food and everyday products. Warren's mission is to help others achieve a healthy and happy toxin-free living. He believes that toxins should be cancelled and that everybody can live healthier by making simple changes to their daily routines. Warren is an example, an influencer and speaker who shares his knowledge and expertise through various platforms, including Instagram. At non-toxic dad, warren Phillips would an absolute honor to welcome you to Balanced Body Radio.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Casey. It was an honor to meet you the other day with one of your other clients.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was awesome. We really hit it off, it was great.
Speaker 2:I'm glad that you're here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, really glad to host you. It was really fun to do a virtual workout with my client and your really good friend, garrett. Him and his family said they had a wonderful time hanging out with you over the weekend. It was also nice in preparation for doing this. I got to see Garrett virtually yesterday. I saw his wife virtually today, carrie, and I got to ask her point blank like, okay, warren, does he practice what he preaches? Is he actually living a toxic-free life? What do you think she said?
Speaker 2:Like over the top toxic-free life Probably.
Speaker 1:She said you guys do a very, very good job around there and take things seriously, without going too much over the top. She did tell a story that recently you guys got a new car and basically had to run the ventilation for like two weeks to get the new car smell out. Is that right?
Speaker 2:Well, I personally won't buy a new car, but my wife you know. The difference between me and her is that she has. If there's certain things, she's willing to take the risk. However, I will mitigate that. So keep our babies out of it, buy it ahead of time, cook it, you know, run it and not use the new car. So it.
Speaker 2:But it's literally like it takes a good to get rid of toxins in car. If we want to talk about toxins in car, it's. It is a soup of chemicals, it's. There's no real regulation on it. So when you buy that new car, smell it that the level of VOCs isn't regulated. So in my opinion and I don't know the numbers on this, but when you get into a car, it'll probably exceed some air quality standard. That's how toxic these things are, and every car is different based on if it was built in Europe or the parts are built in Europe. European has different standards for VOCs than, say, the U? S. But it's a toxic soup and if you're chemically sensitive, I wouldn't buy a car.
Speaker 2:Or if you're really looking for a non-toxic lifestyle, I would look to buy a car four years plus, right? I have an older truck and I don't plan on changing it for that reason, because I just can't handle it. Other people, you know that's their toxic load. They live a really clean life and they choose. I'm going to off gas this thing as best I can. I'm going to drive with the windows down, which is what we did. The solution to pollution in this scenario is dilution. Right, you're bringing in fresh air. You're going to cut the VOCs, you know, down 100 times, right, I don't know the exact number, but it's a big number if you're circulating fresh air into that. But if you have a new car, you're circulating air, you're circulating toxins. So there you go. You know there's the practical, and then there's what I'm not willing to do. Right, so exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's ironic that that is a smell that most people are seeking. They want that from the new car. And when you start to push in this direction and start to clean things out, it's amazing how sensitized you get back to some of these things. Like, I used to wear cologne every single day and didn't have any problem with it. If I go near this stuff, it's like whoa, way, way, way too much. Same with all the products I used to use. Like it's pretty gnarly when you start to cut some of that crap out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think. I mean, I think, colognes and fragrances and there's tons of research showing us there and in the exact research they call them vicious the level of how fragrances have penetrated our society, from trash bags to, you know, every laundry detergent, every cologne. It's even in food packaging, believe it or not, you know, because it connects a certain smell and they do testing to increase people's buying. There's this neurotoxic, almost addiction that can happen because it fires, stimulates in your brain. And all of this is chemistry and it's almost as powerful as a drug. I would say it's as powerful as a drug.
Speaker 2:So, for fragrances are one of the things that really should be eliminated and I don't know how they're so they're allowed to get away with this. It's a really, really toxic. Tons of research showing it and you know. And then there's what's nice about America you can make your own choice, Right, you can decide to breathe this stuff in or not, but the research is really clear when it comes to fragrances and the pervasive nature of fragrances, not just in deodorants, and it's in makeup.
Speaker 2:It doesn't need to be in makeup, but it all creates this experience, this emotional connection where you or I, I mean you've lived your life on connecting to the earth, to connecting to God, connecting to nature, connecting to other people right, but you can live a life that's connected to chemicals and chemical fragrances. It's, in my opinion, it's not adding value to your life. But you know, it took a lot of pain and suffering for me to wake up to that, to that, to that win Casey, and I know that you, you probably have your story as to why you're so focused on what you do and how you connect with life and how you, you know, interact with the world. So we just live a different life, bro. There's no doubt about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's awesome, which is fine, and you're right Like it's our suffering that then leads us to better paths and we find up connecting, like you said, to the things that that drive us, and we're definitely going to hear your story today. I do just have to say, knowing that you are friends with Garrett Gunderson, he's been my client for the better part of a year now. I've been able to train him. His family bestselling author obviously writes about finances, but he's one of the most open, heart-centered people that is so kind and generous. Absolutely love that dude. He's going to be on the podcast soon. I know you're really good friends with Ben Azadi, another person in my sphere that I've been able to meet, and just a wonderful, wonderful human being. If I knew nothing, he's super heart-centered. These guys are very intentional and I would just say it If, if, if, I didn't know anything else about you personally besides that you were friends with those two people, I know everything I need to know about you. Those are some really, really, really good people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if Garrett doesn't, if you're not heart-centered and you're not adding value, he's just not going to be your friend, that's right. I mean he'll be your acquaintance, yeah. So you know, as you age and I'm the same way, like I'm 48, so I don't really have time to be in relationships that aren't adding value, right? So I really seek out people that I can connect with, that can be open and honest with non-judgmental about how I live my life and choosing this non-tossic lifestyle. They actually we become better by being around each other, right? Maybe I need a little more balanced at times, right? Maybe I shouldn't think about this. I have to say I'm not, I'm not, I don't fear toxins. I just choose to avoid them as much as I possibly can within a, you know, with a lot of effort, like I'm reasonable effort, but I push it a little further and I enjoy that. That makes me stronger, it makes me feel better about the congruency of how I live my life. But by no means do I ever judge anyone else or make fun of anyone because they don't Like whatever decision. You know, garrett thinks I'm crazy on some things, right, you know, and so. But that's me and he, of course he's a comedian as well, right, so he's making fun of me at times and I can enjoy that because we have this heart connection and I choose to allow him into my inner circle because he's a good person and I think that's really important.
Speaker 2:When we talk about toxicity, this comes up a lot, casey, is that? You know? Do you talk about toxicity, toxic relationships? I for sure find that as empowering as everything that I'm doing as non-toxic dad. If I'm around a toxic relationship that lowers my frequency, if you will, that makes me feel bad about myself, that's causing anxiety, that's mistreating me, that's talking down to me, that's putting their thumb on my life or whatever it may be. I just don't do it because it has the same hormonal response as cologne does in my life, right, the chemical fragrance. That relationship will change my body chemistry as much, if not more, than an exposure to something I can control, which is cologne. And I can control the relationships in my life. It's not always. Sometimes you got to lean into that pain and stand up for yourself in that moment, feel that visceral response of hormones when you face your fears and you face that conflict.
Speaker 2:But it's so important to get around people, like we're saying is choose our relationships. Choose a Benazade, choose a Casey right, choose a Garrett. It's people that you know that are going to speak into your life, right, or gonna speak emotional toxicity out of your life, gonna speak family toxicity out of your life that are really gonna help you in every your financial toxicity, as Garrett does in your life. And thinking differently about that, like you can get into huge arguments, garrett would say don't follow the standard advice that's being told to you. Let's kill some sacred cows.
Speaker 2:Is that Newark's? What would the Rockefellers do? What do people who hang with finance? And there's a toxic way? So I have friends that are loaded not loaded money-wise, but are loaded in debt because of credit card debt, and that's what their family did. Right, I'm just bound. I can't change because this credit card is that there's no way of getting out. I feel trapped and there's no way out. I'm just gonna be in debt. I'm one of those people. These are your exact words of friends for me, right? If they're listening to this, I'm sorry I'm telling your story, but you just accepted that you're gonna have credit card debt the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:That's financial toxicity. You created a belief structure that you can't overcome that, right. So you live your life and continually live in fear of finances right. The same thing applies to toxicity right, I am so toxic, I can't afford this. All these reasons, you can't do it and you've lived a toxic lifestyle and you don't think you can get out of it. You think you're just trapped because everything's toxic. Right, if you say everything's toxic and take the responsibility off yourself not to change the same with your finances, you're not gonna move your life forward.
Speaker 2:And that's humans. I've done it right. This is what we do. We wanna preserve ourselves, we wanna avoid pain. This is how our brains work. But podcasts like this right, this is the challenge and wake you up and say, oh my gosh, he's right, I'm not taking personal responsibility for my finances and I'm not taking personal responsibility for my health.
Speaker 2:So these are some of the things we speak about, not because I'm trying to change you, because I'm mad at you or angry that you're living the life that you live or I'm not you right, I wasn't raised like you were, right. So the sum combination of who I am is based on all the experiences I had, and no one has the same experiences, no one has the same challenges. But there's this voice of hope, right With finances. There's this voice of these voices of hope out there with your relationships, in your marriage. There's voices of hope when it comes to how to raise your children in a non-toxic way. And here's this voice of hope that you can live a non-toxic lifestyle, to inspire you to make some of those changes, to wash away the bad thinking that's holding you back for making a decision as you know you should be making deep down in your heart. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that you took this conversation in that direction, that toxicity can come from lots of different things, whether they are physical or emotional. I don't know of many financial writers who also write about your personal value and love and all the values that Garrett talks about in his book. And the cool thing about all of this is when I really deep dive into this toxicity world, it's very easy to get overwhelmed and make me want to throw out my hands and say, like what does it matter? Like I'm in the middle of 40 different houses that all have Wi-Fi's on and the pollution, as you well know, in the Valley can change and be bad around here around Salt Lake. But you make things so positive and you always remind your listeners that they can choose what to do. You're just presenting the research and the information and somebody can take that and say like, oh, okay, I'll keep this in my back of my mind and I can do better next time. So I really appreciate that you have that way of sharing content with people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, and I think we should all live that way, like it should be a lesson for life. There's a lesson in that is that I can't live my life based on the outcomes of other people, right, and neither can you. That's a toxic way of looking at life. If someone doesn't want to do something, I'm not going to get mad if they're doing something. That's their choice. Like, so we attach outcomes in our relationships. We attach outcomes, as you know, going online. That's one reason I didn't want to go online, casey. I wanted, I didn't want to add to my life Like I have a really good life, I love life, I love living, I wake up every day fulfilled and happy. This was a test, a challenge that was given to me and I did it and it wound up growing and having impact. And I'm like, okay, you know, if I'm having an impact, you know then I should do it. And if and I believe in God, I believe in energy and following that energy, and if I see that it's causing impact, I'm going to do it. If I see that it's degrading and not adding value, relationships, toxicity, whatever it is, I just look at it as an equation, right? Maybe that's too analytical, even though I really try to come from my heart. I'm like is it adding value to the world? Yes, keep doing it. Is it growing and escalating? Or people finding value? Yes, keep doing it.
Speaker 2:So, and we look at anything in our life, this relationship going online. Am I doing too much with my? Is this adding value by making my thumbs sore? So that's why I threw my cell phone away essentially five years ago and wouldn't use it for any social media because I felt like it was taking away and not adding to my life. Now I use it. I've spun that in my head and now I use it as a tool to reach out and reach into the hearts of people and provide information. That is life transforming, right.
Speaker 2:So it's just. I think there's a lot of lessons when it comes to toxicity and how you think about it, but it comes down to personal responsibility and how you interact with the world, right, and that goes back to our original thing. I choose to interact with the world from a place of love and not get offended, and understand that each and every one of us is living the or trying, in most cases, to live the best life they can possible, and all I'm here to do is to help cheer them on in this one particular area of toxicity and I love talking about the heart and emotional toxicity as well, because without that I wouldn't be able to do this right. So no one gets to a place where they can share openly and honest and be authentic without dealing with some of this emotional toxicity and what people think of you and all those things that can derail you from living a life that is free and open and you're giving and receiving love on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's amazing. It's part of what I can do with a podcast is I get my podcast. Hosts will allow me to take sound clips that are anywhere from like 15 to 60 seconds long, like highlights of some of our guests that we have on the show. That can edit it down into a shorter sound bite. You've already given me like 20 so far. This has already been an amazing conversation. We do have to hear about your story. You have an amazing story that got you to where you were and you were very, very sick, I would say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to the point where I wanted to end my life for sure sick. So, 25 years old, cleaning up hazardous waste for a living abandoned have a master's degree in toxicology and chemistry from the geology department at University of Montana, I did research on the binding of heavy metals in the environment. We got contracts. We were an 8A disadvantaged business owners for the consulting firm. I actually just talked to my old boss the other day. I still can't wait to really sit down with him. I mean I have talked to him but we just reconnected, probably after 10 years. So I really look forward to he's changed a lot Now.
Speaker 2:I've changed a lot and when I was in that environment, of course we were doing our job, we were doing the best job possible, but we were cleaning up a lot of abandoned mines for the US Forest Service. Army Corps of Engineers oversaw our work. We had a federal use defense site cleanup, numerous other cleanups and during that time I was getting exposed to a lot of heavy metals, including lead and arsenic and mercury. A lot of lead and arsenic because of the types of mines different silver, it runs with lead and gold runs with arsenic right and mercury right. So these different precious metals from turn of the century mines, and some of those mines probably did use mercury extraction. A lot of them were just using water, which is just a hydraulic extraction of just letting the elements separate out and the gold's heavier, it falls and it's like panning, like watching gold rush is kind of how they did it back then. So in that whole process I got very sick. But I also had some emotional toxicity going on at the time. I had some relationship toxicity going on. I had some physical toxicity, I had a whiplash, so a lot of these things added up to my body shutting down, becoming dysfunctional. So there's emotional toxicity, relationship toxicity, for sure, and then also physical toxicity and then the environmental toxicity. So all that was going on at once and no one knew it was wrong. Why don't you just exercise? Why don't you go talk to a therapist? But I didn't know it was wrong and I was having all the symptoms of heavy metal toxicity.
Speaker 2:At one point I did an abandoned lead burial site where they abandoned and buried lead batteries. So you used to do that back then and that's a form of lead. That's not all. Lead absorbs. Right, it won't absorb through your skin. There's different types of lead, but the type of lead in batteries is really absorbable when you can inhale it and there's a different form that it's getting into your bloodstream more easily. And I remember having a hallucination at night I never put two and two together, but that was an acute exposure and I would and then what doesn't come out? 90% of it gets stuck in your bones. So you never get rid of this stuff. It bio accumulates, just like mercury bio accumulates in fish. We're like big fish and we hold these heavy metals.
Speaker 2:So through that process, became very sick, had to move home. Moved home in my parents' basement. It was October 30th of 2005, I believe right around Halloween. I pulled up and I thought, surprised my parents. I thought I was coming home the next day and I opened the door and I'm like all my problems are going to be solved. It's just stress, right? So loves, loves and kisses, hugs, and I was pretty dysfunctional. Then we thought if I just went home, everything would get well. Why went into their moldy basement? Now that I'm already sensitized to toxins and my detox pathways are already shut down, I'm back into a moldy basement in Pennsylvania at the bottom of a hill where you know moisture is just going to move into that wall, no matter what you do. Right, I'm getting humidity and I went from bad to wanting to take my life sick because dysfunctional chronic pain, fibromyalgia, weight gain, increased dysfunction, increased chemical sensitivities increased.
Speaker 2:Never thought I would all hope lost. I was a devout Christian at the time. Reading my Bible no longer became possible because of the level of anxiety and just no energy just to do anything. Zero hope, just bad. You know, chronic pain, you name it Couldn't do anything. I loved. I love gardening and outdoors. I couldn't do any of that stuff, so I won't get into that story, but it was just really bad and there was no access to information then and you know, luckily I had, you know, in my heart of hearts. I knew it had to be something with my job, right. I knew it had to be something with the whiplash too, because you know that did trigger a lot of neck and back pain and I just had a lot of inflammation going on.
Speaker 2:But I got lucky enough to be turned on to some of the heavy metal symptoms from in papers, because you couldn't find any of this stuff online. So someone handed me this is what mercury does to your body, right, and I had a lot of those heavy metal mercury symptoms, a lot of lead symptoms and a ton of mold symptoms at the time too. But there's these different neurological symptoms that go along with it, like abnormal shyness that's a mercury symptom Just random eye twitching, just these weird things, these neurological things, as the mercury affects and degrades your nerve tissue. So you know, there I was right, you know, hopeless. But then when I start eating and devouring that information and started heavy metal chelation properly and unproperly at times, I started to feel better. And then, as I started to feel better and know that that's the cause, my signs, brain kicked in, my hopes started kicking in and the steamroll started going the other way. I got healthier and healthier and it took probably about four or five years. So I got healthy enough to think you know, maybe I could get married. You know, maybe I could.
Speaker 2:And I remember having this conversation I've never shared this on a podcast before, but I had this internal dialogue going on because my dream is to be married and have kids. I mean, if you asked Garrett or anyone in my life, probably one of the reasons I'm so just happy is because my dream has been given to me tenfold, like a beautiful wife, amazing three girls. I wanted girls, just that connection. It's just. There's nothing like it, brother. I mean there's just nothing like it in my opinion, and to get that back has been the greatest gift.
Speaker 2:But I remember during that time when I was feeling better, I and I hope this helps somebody but I was still identifying as I didn't have any money right To get married or to have children or to start what I really wanted, right, I was still sick, carrying around a suitcase of vitamins to keep me going. I was better, but I was still sick. I still had this excuse and I thought there's no way I can get married. There's no, because this is, this is a single guy thing Like I want. My dream was to be married and have children. There's a lot of people like that, especially growing up in the era I did right.
Speaker 2:I'm 48 years old and at this event and I'm meditating and I'm and I'm praying and I'm making all these excuses as to why I will never have my dreams I'm too sick, I have no money, I'm stinky, I never want to be with me, right, and I'm telling God that this is not going to happen. And I heard this voice that said Warren, I want you to have it all You're going to. You're going to become financially sound again, you're going to be healthy and and you can have a wife now if you choose it right. This is what went on in my mind Like you can have it all now If you choose it. You're no longer sick. I'm moving you past that Like, if you choose that right now, I will give it to you. I met my wife at that event and we got married three months later. So nobody knows that story. Maybe a few people have heard that.
Speaker 2:But there's also this mindset shift that you have to have when you're sick. I'm no longer sick and I talked about this on the podcast just previous that I recorded a couple of days ago. It was. I understood that the universe wasn't working for me. God wasn't against me. He's for me and he loves me and he wants me to be happy. He wants me to be whole. He wants me to be financially sound. He wants to give me a family. It's part of his design.
Speaker 2:Right, and when I was open to that love and stopped telling him that I couldn't, that I can't which is telling myself that I can't and I won't have it, I don't deserve it right. And when that voice said that and I accepted that love, which is the force that I think that moves all of our good decisions and gives us the confidence to move forward, I accepted that positive from God. It's called a voice in my head, but I accepted it and believed it, that it was God speaking to my heart and it changed everything for me. I was still at health challenges moving forward, but I always had that. And look at my life today right, three beautiful children, financially sound, and I made wise decisions. I didn't make toxic financial decisions. I didn't get here because God just magically blessed my life. No, he encouraged me, said I could have all that stuff if I chose it right, if I accepted it and made the decisions on a day-to-day basis to take me there, listening to other people like KCU help people with back pain and all kinds of things.
Speaker 2:If they listen to you, if they take the steps. One session with you isn't going to fix a lifetime of bad decisions, of sitting around and not moving right. So it takes time, just like anything else. But if you say my back pain is never going to go away, I just accept this back pain and you don't try anything. Even if it doesn't work, it moves you to that next decision and you try again and you look for a better result.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, very well said. I think I can speak for our listener to say that all of us were in goosebumps hearing that story. That is so amazing. Okay, so talking about toxins I feel like the way we talked about it in the introduction was probably a nice way to think about it, so let me find it. We're talking about toxins in our environment, our food and our everyday products. Is that the best way to kind of separate those out into three different kind of categories? That we can be thinking about these things?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean the most common, the way that folks talk about it is toxins in our food, in our air, in our water, right? Those are like the three big areas, but I like what you said too. Really, there's lots of ways to discuss toxicity, like you said, right, and I like to look at just I don't like to cliche things, yeah, I don't have to say that. Maybe I should just compartmentalize everything that I share, but I like to share from a heartfelt space is what do you, what are your listeners challenged with? Like what are the type of toxins that are in their life that they're concerned about? That I could help with, like that. I could give some takeaways and say hey, warren, what do you think about salt, right? What do you think about some of the things I'm doing and biohacking for my health? Is it, should I? Is grass-fed meat really mattered? Is it toxic as whatever? What is your audience? What are they facing in toxicity? I know a lot of them probably are living a more non-toxic lifestyle.
Speaker 2:I can't see many people listening to this podcast that are showing up at McDonald's every day. That their level of education understanding. Nothing wrong with you if you decide to go to McDonald's, you believe in that that's where you're at. You think it's fine. I disagree, but I'm not going to. I'm not talking down to you like, oh, you go to McDonald's Like I don't care. You know, I don't, you know, so let's move on with our day. We can agree to disagree, but your listeners have a different perspective. How can I help them? As far as environments, you know their bedroom, like biohacking, like where can I add value?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's let's use that as a framework for this conversation and let's start with environment, just for the sake of of ease of conversation. And when we're talking about environment, I guess I'd like to focus on the home, because we spend so much time at home, especially post pandemic. What are the big rocks? What are the major things that is going through your mind when you're walking into somebody else's home?
Speaker 2:as far as sources of toxicity, when we're talking about environments of our home, yeah, the one that's going to get you the most is going to be mold. You know mold, bad water damage type molds. When I walk into a home, you know I sometimes still get symptoms. I'll get tightness around my head, I'll smell it but I'll get foggy or I, after being at someone's house, I won't sleep for days and that could be in biotoxins. Might not even smell the musty smell, but there's a lot of homes I walk into that have a musty smell just because of plants and other things that are in their home, but it isn't putting off the bad molds that produce mycotoxin. So I think if you're in a home that has water damage, that has black mold sitting in a wall and you're not addressing it properly and contaminating your home by using what we did back in the day not only personal protective equipment and handling, you know that well. You need to set up containments so that you're not in with negative air, which keeps the toxins flowing out of the house and not into your home and contaminating more. So I think mold is a big issues in homes.
Speaker 2:I think the volatile organic compounds are big issues in home, with fragrances, wall paint, new furniture, right, the regulations where they slather things in flame retardants that are highly carcinogenic, which is a longevity issue. That stuff leads to cancer, increases your cancer risk a thousand times when you're exposed to some of these over and over again. You don't know your mattress has it right Between the VOCs from the foam and the flame retardants to keep that foam from burning you. The bromelated flame retardants, like all that stuff, add up pretty quick. So I always look for the volatile organic compound sources. Pull out all the fragrances, the febrizes, all the things that contain artificial fragrance, anything that can give off a volatile organic compound.
Speaker 2:Get that stuff out of your house because it just lowers your frequency. It's something your body has to deal with on a day-to-day basis because you're in there. Ways to negate that until you can afford is crack your window and keep your humidity below 50%, else you're going to grow mold, right. So just like we talked about the new car, right, don't recommend it. But if you do, keep your windows down right and make sure you get your loved ones to agree with you on that, because you don't want to fight about a new car smell. If you're me, you're going to right, you know lower on the windows. So don't do that. It's no good for us, our babies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so that's a really good start. I love that. What about the products that we use inside the home, things like detergents, you know, fabric softeners? Are we also really trying to focus on fragrance, to lead us in the right?
Speaker 2:way, the nastiest stuff in there is. I mean, yeah, the chemicals get into your skin the surfactants, at least they're being rinsed out. But I think the chemical fragrances cause the biggest damage right to our life, right? So I mean me personally. You know, and it's such an easy switch. Like you can use borax, you can use vinegar and borax in your wash, or just vinegar or just borax. There's so many ways to clean your clothes that's so much less expensive with zero fragrance, if we got to get over our addiction to fragrance, right. But again, the fragrance industry and they've done a lot of testing to keep us addicted to this stuff.
Speaker 2:The reason we like that downy fresh smell, that mountain breeze, that snuggle, you know, with your blanket, is that they're emotionally selling you Like. This has nothing to do with reality. This has nothing to do with what's good for you, has nothing to do with what's going to be at value to your family. It has everything to do with them getting you addicted to an idea that this is important for you to be happy to have that snuggle, freshness, right To relieve the pain of static cling. Oh my God, my life is over. Static cling. I can't have it. You found a solution that's going to kill you, right, it's going to steal from your life. They're selling an emotion, they're selling a convenience when you don't need it. And nature has provided all the cleaning power that you need, right. All the de-static that you need in a wool dryer ball for crying out loud. You're going to save money. You're going to be healthier. Your kids aren't going to be, you know, brain fogged from these fragrances and chemicals that cause brain inflammation, right. So it comes down to that stuff. Do you want a more powerful and impactful life? That's how I look at it. How do I do that? I'm not going to some of this stuff may.
Speaker 2:If you're a strong, you know you didn't, your mom didn't fill you up with toxins and you have a strong constitution genetically. A lot of people say I've done all this stuff and I'm happy and I'm 90 years old and smoke cigarettes and I'm, I'm, I'm loving life and I'm smarter than you, and you may be right, but the stats are against you. Not everyone has that constitution and as we disobey nature and chemicalize our bodies, we're going to get weaker and weaker genetics as we go. Both of my grandparents 90s to 100, right, and they didn't eat well, but they ate organic their whole life, they had their own gardens, they didn't have industrial farming and they went through some of the most emotional trauma anyone could ever go through, with a depression and world wars and all that stuff, right, and poverty and coming over on a boat and not having a job and, you know, working at a factory that was probably toxifying them, but they still did fine.
Speaker 2:The amount of toxins that are in our home and we're putting on our bodies now with this chemical revolution far exceed what our, our grandparents at 48, so much different than of today had to deal with. But now someone like me I've been, I was off of some of that stuff, but a lot of this stuff hit the fan as I was growing up. Right, the toxic cereals, right, and the food colorings and the processed cheese and the I believe in crystal light, because you believe in me sucralose or whatever that one is. I think it might not be sucralose, it might be the other one um, nutrisweet, but all those commercials and what they got away with, even with smoking, and all of that, right it was, it was the start. It was our generation that really got chemicalized. Um, you know, I'm a Gen Xer, I think. I believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just kind of laughing to myself, thinking like, gee, warren, wouldn't it be a really bad situation if other industries were also trying to profit on us and get us addicted to different things? We, if that would happen, we might be really, really sick, wouldn't we? Yeah, we would be. We would be go walk around in the mall, Um, okay, so staying inside the home. We're going to talk about food here in a second, but let's talk about food preparation. This to me seems like a big one. We're now applying heat to our food, generally speaking, um, and that to me would would signal you you're speeding up reactions. Obviously, you're cooking food. So what do we need to know about the cooking of food in our home? How can we make that less toxic than it currently is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I wouldn't claim to be a massive expert when it comes to the releasing of nutrients. Um, there's some things that are better if you cook or steam right, there's some that it's. It's better because it knocks down some of the protective mechanisms of the uh of the vegetables, so they don't get eaten and you don't eat too much of them, Right? So I'm not a guy that eats all raw vegetables, or I'm not afraid of um, what's in? Is it phytates, the big one where everyone yells and screams with kale and all that?
Speaker 1:phytates. Oxalates is another big one.
Speaker 2:Oxalates is the word that you got it Right. I don't even fear that stuff because I'm like, I'm like a bug. You know I'll eat some of it and then I'll go eat something else that has less Right, and so I don't. I eat, I eat raw vegetables. All the time Someone says too many oxalates, you need to take the skin off, but there's also healthy things inside the skin. So I like to try to do everything in moderation and not just juice and, you know, go raw vegan, right? Um, if I did nothing wrong with that, I'm not going to. If I did that too long, I could get oxalate toxicity. Right, because I'm just juicing too much.
Speaker 2:But for a season it really rests your digestion, right. It'd be really good for you, right, it's like no big deal, right. But if I cook meat, you bet I would side on just cooked and almost rare. Right, because it's just, it doesn't denature the proteins, like. That's the best way to eat it. It's hard to convince people of that, though, right, because they don't like the texture and they don't like the blood. They don't like the way it looks.
Speaker 2:Last night use the infrared, you know, seared it on both sides. It was raw in the middle, right, but I got everyone to eat it and it tasted amazing. And I used infrared. If you can on your grill, um, it doesn't chart as much right, and it and that penetrates and cooks the meat, but it doesn't leave the char, which is carcinogenic. Can your body handle a little char? Absolutely. Take, eat some, eat it with, you know, some antioxidants. Or eat some berries, right, it'll offset the oxidation that that's causing, because that's what's going on. So you need to balance this stuff out. I believe in eating berries right, because they're meant to be eating. They're eating their fruit, right. But so I'm in.
Speaker 2:You know I'm not all carnivore, I'm not. I'm not raw vegan. You know I'm not like I'm. I eat a diet that's in season. I eat a diet that's that's healthy. I try to. I try my best not to overcook things and and within my knowledge, but I'm not the scientist going to say, hey, warren, you know, never cook your broccoli because you, you get rid of this, this and this and this, I don't know that. I just try to live a balanced lifestyle in nature, in season, in time, not overcook my food, convince my family of the things that I do, know about how to cook and, you know, debunk some of the things.
Speaker 2:Can my kids eat oats every once in a while? Yeah, sprouted, sprouted oats every once in a while, but they're not going to have that every day, right, it's going to spike their sugar. It's going to get them addicted to those foods, because whatever we eat on a daily basis, we'll get addicted to it, right? So I I try to just vary their diets. I care more about them than I do myself, to be honest with you, but I do eat clean as much as possible. Do I eat a cracker that may have glyphosate in it? Every once in a while? Potentially, but not often. Right? But you're going to find nothing conventional in my home, right, you're going to have to find almost everything is going to be organic. But that doesn't mean it's clean, bro. Yeah, right, it doesn't mean it's clean. It doesn't mean it doesn't have levels of toxicity.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's something I wanted to ask you about. Before we jump to that, though. Um cook, am I safe to assume that, like cast iron is really good to cook with? Slow cooking would be better to cook with, like you said, not over cooking the meat, like in those kinds of things, like older ways of preparing food. Am I, am I right in assuming that those are safer than you know, buying the latest like nonstick pan or again like overcooking food?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, we use stainless steel. It's our best stainless steel and some ceramic and then obviously cast iron. Those are all the things that we use in our home. The funny thing is I just found out from a LedSafe mama who I had a conversation with, a really, really brilliant lady when it comes to this area of expertise. It's hard to impress me, but she's a very smart lady and she and I knew this in my heart of hearts.
Speaker 2:But 18-0 doesn't mean zero nickel. It just means it's enough for them to report that there's no nickel in it. But they're still nickel. So 18-0, stainless. And I'm just always being honest that's where I just learned this and I'll continue to share this information you don't want to buy 18-8. You don't want to buy 18-6 stainless. You want to buy 18-0 because stainless. If you're cooking on 18-10 stainless, say, you have a lot of nickel in there and you have an 18-10 spatula and a fork and 18-10. And you're just whacking on that, you're getting nickel exposure. I seen it back when we did testing, because I ran a large health clinic and coach practitioners for 20 years on this stuff. We would get all the patient data. We'd see a lot of high nickel in our patients when we'd run heavy metal challenges on them, and the source that we could always came back to was stainless steel. So you do want to go for 18-0. It's not as nice, it's not as shiny, but you want 18-0 stainless.
Speaker 2:My silverware looks like crap, but it's 18-0, right? So that's what I recommend. When it comes to cookware, there's some good ceramic brands out there as well. That can be tricky, but some of the higher-end brands. You just got to make sure that they verify that they're lead-free, which doesn't mean lead-free, but low amounts of lead and cadmium and other things that can show up in there. But again, you've got to be careful with the heat. When it comes to ceramic, unless it's pure ceramic all the way through, that's usually very inert. There's only one company out there that does that. It's a little harder to cook with, so I always default to stainless steel and a little bit of ceramic. We have one ceramic pan and then the cast iron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really appreciate that. That's a very practical list that anybody could walk away from and start moving in that direction, which is great. Let's talk about food. We've already mentioned some foods. What are the biggest offenders as far as toxic food that you really want people to avoid?
Speaker 2:Well, there's this big seed oil debate, right, and it's a tough one because there's two huge sides to this. And is it best to avoid seed oils? Yes, especially the highly processed industrial seed oils, which is going to be the top three, are soy, canola, and I was going to say sunflower can be really bad. But it can also be expelor pressed and cold processed and not as bad. So it depends on where that oil is coming from, the level of toxicity it's going to have on your body. But let's just talk about the industrial seed oils of soy rapeseed oil as well, which is a deviant of canola oil. It's not GMO. Gmo is the canola plant. Rapeseed was typically was just a hybridization of the canola plant to create rapeseed oil. So anyway, long story short, those ones, when they're processed, industrialized, they would be better off being used in a car than they would be putting your body and your body really can't use them. And now you're talking cellular function. Now you're talking building blocks of cells and brain tissue and all cells in your body, including your brain cells. So supplying your body with something that doesn't build those cells, that's inflammatory, that still contains trans fats, it's just not a good idea to put those things in your body and they put it in everything because it's cheap. It adds that fatty taste that people like, so you get the benefit with none of the cost and it can take high heat at that point because it's been so processed. But it's just processed it into a completely dead food and it's bad for you. If you get a little bit in a cracker once in a blue moon, can your body work that out? It'll take some time, believe it or not, to work it out of your body, but it's not going to kill you in that moment. But if you're loading up and cooking with vegetable oils and that's in a plastic container and it says canola oil and you think that's safe, it's just not and there's no signs that can back that up. There's people being paid, probably, to promote and say that it is safe, but it's just not safe and canola oil is just not canola oil.
Speaker 2:Is all canola oil bad in my opinion? Yeah, for the most part. But an organic, cold expelor pressed is that better than the canola oil that's sitting on the shelf in a plastic jar? Yeah, it's better. Is it great? No, but it's way better. So you go to Whole Foods and they're using organic canola oil. Do I eat it? No, would I eat it once in a blue moon Maybe. But the canola oil there's a little bit better, probably a lot better. I mean, I don't know the science whether enough to give you a little or a lot, but I know it's better. We'll just stick with that.
Speaker 2:Then the industrial seed oil that's definitely GMO. Organic is not GMO. That's the only thing GMO does for us is it's non-GMO. So if it's non-GMO canola oil, I would be more suspect. But so I kind of have a balanced approach to that. But at the core of it, the right. It's one of the most toxic foods you can put in your body because it's affecting you at the cellular level, the very building blocks of your cells and your lipid membranes. And this has been. We've been talking about this for 20-some years. Now it's becoming cool, now it's becoming a statement. But when we first started talking about this information it really did fall on deaf ears. It's just like ah, you guys are nuts. There's no way that they'd be giving us foods that make us sick. Now everybody that's listening to this stuff, they don't trust anyone at this point. So you can say trust the science. And what does that mean?
Speaker 1:What does that mean? Yeah, no, it's a terrible story. We have tagged this video probably 100 times on our podcast. I'll tag it again today in the notes, the how it's made section of the episode of that show they used to show. They show step by step the process of making canola oil. It is terrible For you to say it's probably better in your car. I would debate whether it's even good to put in your car for anything?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because what's going to come out? Yeah, oh it's disgusting.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely crazy and we know that people who cook with this stuff fry chefs. They have a disproportionate number of cases of lung cancer because they're inhaling this stuff as it's being heated up. It's absolutely terrible. We've hosted Chris Kenobi on our show twice. He's written extensively about this, where he blames the seed oils, much more than the sugar, for what ELSA says as a society, and he makes a really strong case that that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm with him. So if you're going to give me a tablespoon of sugar or a tablespoon of canola, I would 1,000% grab that sugar all day long than putting that industrial seed oil in my body. At least it's an anti-nutrient, but at least my body can process and get rid of it. It's going to come at a cost, but that canola oil is going to have a. My body is going to cause inflammation. It's hard for my body to remove something it doesn't recognize, nor can it use. So it's a wreaking havoc. It has a half-life in your body for I don't know, like 180 days or something crazy.
Speaker 1:I thought it was supposed to be 600, 650, something like that.
Speaker 2:It depends on the influencer that's talking about and how pissed he is about the canola oil. So again, not my. I mean you asked me, right, Not, I'm not going to sit there and memorize how canola oil is made, I just know based on the science that I've read. It's just one of the worst things. I mean I'd rather eat sugar. Do I say sugar? Is that another inflammatory cause? Or, of course, so many people are addicted to sugar, right, Because it causes that dopeyness spike. So do we avoid sugar in our home? Absolutely, Like you know, like the plague? No, At one point in my life when I was sick, I avoided everything that caused inflammation, like the plague, like everything, Because that's what I had to do to get well, right?
Speaker 2:So I had a lot of motivation. Now I can get away with eating some more organic potato chips, even though there's really no good ones out there. That's a tough one, right? The ones that are OK have expelopress sunflower oil Not going to kill you if you eat a few, right, Because it's not nearly as denatured, in my opinion, as the canola and the rape seed and soy and things of that nature, but still it's probably not the best and the highest quality fat for your body, right? It's not like you know eating tablespoons of fresh pressed organic olive oil from Greece, right? It's just.
Speaker 1:There's no comparison, yeah yeah, exactly that's what my next point was going to be. Just like look, this is a really easy thing to sub out. Cook in butter, find a good quality olive oil. It's really not that much more expensive. You could fix that one real easy. But just go through your pantry and get rid of seed oils. They are absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2:Lard is cooking in with large grass fed lard and there's a lot of that. Back 20 years ago, when I was sick, none of this stuff existed, right? We were completely a place of convenience, like we didn't. We really didn't. We lost all the ancient practices, if you will like. How are you know? We used to use Lard and then we moved to Crisco, right? Um, it's, it's just, it's sad because Lard was bad and it's going to make you sick. And here's Crisco, right, and everybody knows that that was a really bad decision, right? Transfads, oh my gosh. But they told us it was better, told us it was better for us. You can see why, you know, everyone's so skeptic. You know it's just like they'll think that, you know, 10 years from now, all of it will be bad or whatever. Right, which isn't true, because we've we've evolved with this stuff. It's part of it's part of our DNA, it's part of our cellular makeup. That's what's neat about.
Speaker 2:We were raised forging and eating meat. Right, for the most part, for most of us. Maybe someone's more fruit, you know fruit oriented if you you're from the tropics, but or you know closer to the equator but you still ate meat. I mean you still. You know eight monkeys and you know, uh, ardvarks or wherever you lived, right, probably lemurs. You know things that we couldn't do today, but it was food, right, and the the most of these animals, especially grass fed animals. If we're going to grass fed, they have the four to one ratio, which is what our cells are made up of a mega six to a mega three, and that's what butter is. So you're it's one that's your body can't use or recognize right To create a healthy cell, and here's one that has the perfect ratio to make healthy cells and doesn't cause inflammation. So, and you're defending this, when you could have this like it's a pretty simple um transfer of idea, and butter, grass fed butter, I mean, holy cow, it's like a perfect food Cheese.
Speaker 1:It's like cheese.
Speaker 2:I eat it like cheese.
Speaker 2:Yeah, four to one ratio. Again, meat that feeds off the energy source right Of the sun. Four to one the fats in the meat. So the very things that produce life in us is now being told that it's bad. So it I can understand why people go conspiracy. I think it's more money driven than it is trying. You know it's it. You know it's just a bunch of people trying to daisy chain uh ways to get rich, right or to, which is a sorry, sad way to live. Let's be honest, right, um, as you've experienced, you know it's about relationships and people, and I feel bad for that. I feel bad that they're trapped, um in a, in a lifestyle, um, that it's. It's not going to produce, like, go travel somewhere where there's poverty and look at the happiness that they have, and they have nothing, but they have everything. So wake up. You know, world. You know this. This isn't what it's all about, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Last one I just want to circle back on um is the environmental products. We talked about this already as far as fragrances. Is there anything else you want us to know about the products that we use or the things that we put on our skin?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, like, if you have these complicated things to read. There's so many data databases out there now, like EWG. They're really, really good, um at explaining a lot of the different names and things that we don't understand you can. There's lots of apps today that you can find um and use because it is confusing out there, right. But so anything that says fragrance or perfume, just get rid of it, right?
Speaker 2:Um, I had a hair gel that I've been using for a while that was super clean, all organic, high rating on um. Um, ewg been using it for years and they switched it from essential oils to perfume because I smelled it, right, I'm like, wait a minute, you know. So now I'm using this. You know clay, multiple clay based. You know hair gel, right, which probably does have a little lead. Um, got to be careful with that, but it doesn't absorb as much. Most lead molecules aren't going to go through your skin, so you got to be careful. Um, if you're ingesting clay, for sure, but putting it on your hair um is uh, relatively I would. I would say for me, based on being uh, uh, you know an environmental cleanup guy who studied lead and lead toxicity. Um, again, I'm not the best and the brightest there's. There's other experts, like I mentioned earlier that, that that understand this better than I do, but I'm I'm okay with it, right? So, but I'm not going to put that fragrance on my on my body anymore, right? I don't want to smell that on a daily basis. So, uh, it's hard.
Speaker 2:Man, you got mascara and all these different things that we've tied into with beauty and um, you can like use natural things, right, you can use um, activated carbon or charcoal, you know. You can use, um, you know, uh, plant based colorants for your cheeks and like all this stuff. And there's great companies that do that. Um, I don't want to name companies cause I'm not, I don't like promoting anyone. Um, I just, you know, just trying to steer clear of all that to be connected to brands, because then I can't connect it. They make a mistake, then it comes back on me. But there's so many good skincare lines like, whatever you put in your skin, it's like eating it.
Speaker 2:Just think of it that way. So, if, would you eat those chemicals? No, would you let your kid eat those chemicals? No, then don't put it on their skin. Find another and something else, right, if you, you can use coconut, or you can use shea butter, which gives you um sun protection. You can just use straight natural things without all the fanfare, um, and the these big promises that it's going to anti-age you and orc value and all these things. Just use things in nature and eat clean. You won't. You won't age that quickly, you know um, I mean, I've went through Helen back and I'm 48 and I definitely don't look older than 48.
Speaker 1:Um so yeah.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so, and it's not like I and I and I lived a really rough lifestyle before that, right? Um, I mean, I drank Mountain Dew, you name it. I did it right, so it it was a long road. So just avoid that stuff and get, get back to simple, I mean, and if you can't eat it, don't put it on your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. I think that is wonderful advice and I think this has been an awesome conversation with, again, a lot of practical tips that people can be thinking about. So really appreciate the time that you took to be on our show today, warren. Really appreciate your content. Where can people go to find you, to connect with you and your work?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean all the social, non-toxic dadcom, but you know, at non-toxic dad, on Tik Tok, instagram, youtube, facebook, wherever you can consume information, um, my, my promise is to make it educational and entertaining and, um, and definitely well thought out, so that I'm bringing something of value to you, so you can slowly switch right to to something else, like I did one on Kraft cheese, which people overdo the plastic part, right, I I brought the reality with it, right, and some people still love their craft singles. You know, I used to fold them up and eat them while watching gummy bears and he man and cheer as a kid and so, but I'm not going to eat that stuff. So that is my promise when you go to my channel, and I'm going to turn up the funny and just, uh, make it so that we can educate and share this information, so that we all can, you know, even choose a non-toxic lifestyle, which will affect these larger companies for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, we lost a lot of those companies as potential sponsors of our show today. Um, we're so grateful for your work. I love your content. You do such a great job and I would. I would say that all of the things you're trying to accomplish with your social media you are accomplishing. It's funny, it's engaging, it's well thought out. Like you said, you do a great job presenting the research in a way that feels helpful and not overwhelming. So thank you so very much, Warren Phillips, for all of the work that you've done, all the suffering you've gone through to then get to the other side and help other people with it is really wonderful, and we're just so grateful for you and your work and for thing for taking time out of your day to be on our show today. We really appreciate you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, casey. Same to you, brother. I love what you're doing and love how you're helping people and I'm glad that um we we connected through Garrett. It's been a huge blessing, bro. Thank you yeah.
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